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a draft of egypt's new constitution will be delivered to president mohamed morsi today. private first class bradley manning accused of leaking classified documents to wikileaks will return to court in fort meade maryland. right now i'm joined by richard a renberg. allen frumin who retired as parliamentarian of the u.s. senate last year. this is his first interview since then. akil amar and sterling professor of law at yale law school. and msnbc contributor, victoria defrancesco soto. great to have you all here. all right. if president obama wants to get anything done in his second term, democrats in the senate will have to overcome one major obstacle, the filibuster. since democrats took control of both chambers of congress in 2007, republicans have used the filibuster as a bludgeon against them to pass basic legislation. the senate bills that actually passed has dropped from just over 25% to a record low of 2.8% this year. the rate held steady at 10% through the clinton and bush years and then plummeted when democrats took control of congress in 2007. that is due in no
a draft of egypt's new constitution will be delivered to president mohamed morsi today. private first class bradley manning accused of leaking classified documents to wikileaks will return to court in fort meade maryland. right now i'm joined by richard a renberg. allen frumin who retired as parliamentarian of the u.s. senate last year. this is his first interview since then. akil amar and sterling professor of law at yale law school. and msnbc contributor, victoria defrancesco soto. great to...
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discussion of the issue dealt with movie rage about these muslims being upset about portrayi portraying mohammed in a bad way in some movie on youtube. >> jon: those are the congressional hearings that began this week to try to piece together some of the details surrounding the deadly terror attacks on our embassy in benghazi. the attacks killed four americans, including our ambassador on september 11th. so, jim, this accountability, accountability review board appointed by the state department takes a look at the state department and finds that the security was, quote, grossly inadequate to deal with the attack. what kind of coverage does it get? >> oh, that got a lot of coverage. it was grossly inadequate. the people who escaped the coverage and could go on interviews, for example, hillary clinton, are hillary clinton and president obama. they are different. they're in a different category. anybody with undersecretary and below is dead meat in terms of this thing, can be fired, embarrassed humiliated however, hillary clinton and president obama are on their own. >> jon: and you had questions,
discussion of the issue dealt with movie rage about these muslims being upset about portrayi portraying mohammed in a bad way in some movie on youtube. >> jon: those are the congressional hearings that began this week to try to piece together some of the details surrounding the deadly terror attacks on our embassy in benghazi. the attacks killed four americans, including our ambassador on september 11th. so, jim, this accountability, accountability review board appointed by the state...
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their refrain was "bread, freedom and sharia" or islamic law from supporters of president mohammed morsi in cairo. morsi, morsi, they chanted. reporters also gathered in the coastal city of alexandria this evening, just days before a referendum on a draft constitution. it would affirm many tenets of sharia as the law of the land. >> i support the president. i think that opponents of the president claim that egypt would turn into an islamic state. but the reality is if they do not want a constitution that contains islamic law and they fear the growth of the islamic political current. >> suarez: back in cairo, morsi's opponents gathered again, separated from the president's muslim brotherhood backers by barricades. >> all these barricades you see here will not stop a million revolutionaries. they will eat these stones, not demolish them. they will eat them. >> suarez: violence between the two sides last week killed seven and wounded hundreds. and before dawn today, masked gunman sprayed birth shot at protestors in tahrir square miles from the presidential palace. nine people were hurt. ami
their refrain was "bread, freedom and sharia" or islamic law from supporters of president mohammed morsi in cairo. morsi, morsi, they chanted. reporters also gathered in the coastal city of alexandria this evening, just days before a referendum on a draft constitution. it would affirm many tenets of sharia as the law of the land. >> i support the president. i think that opponents of the president claim that egypt would turn into an islamic state. but the reality is if they do...
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basically mohammed morsi has lived down to the worst of the expectations. at the end of the day, as you said in your run up to this. this is about egypt and freedom. we have a revolution that continues for freedom and dignity. we did not have this revolution so that we could create a new dictator and this is why people are opposing what morsi did. >> morsi gave an interview to "time" magazine this week. an exclusive interview and this is just an excerpt from it. what i can see now is the egyptians are free. it's their right to express and to raise their voices and express their feelings and attitudes. but it's my responsibility, i see things more than they do. what does that even mean? >> so heavily invested in this revolution and loves this revolution, i find his words incredibly insulting to the revolution and its spirit of removing, basically, his daddy figure. morsi is basically saying i'm your daddy and what egypt has been saying since we started this election, we don't need a daddy, we need a president. >> how do you think this will play out in your c
basically mohammed morsi has lived down to the worst of the expectations. at the end of the day, as you said in your run up to this. this is about egypt and freedom. we have a revolution that continues for freedom and dignity. we did not have this revolution so that we could create a new dictator and this is why people are opposing what morsi did. >> morsi gave an interview to "time" magazine this week. an exclusive interview and this is just an excerpt from it. what i can see...
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the north bay, napa valley and mohammed valley things look -- gnome valley things look nice. -- mohammed valley. it may rain, it may not. boy did that sound like a weatherman. stupid tomorrow we will have -- stay tuned tomorrow. we will have more details. >> thank you, brian. the changing of prop 13 may be the first for the super majority fight in sacramento. >> yes. we have more on the people initiative to win the property taxation. that prop 13. we asked him about the pieces. >> there are a lot of piece to it. prop 13 says to pass a special tax for schools, for example -- . >> or libraries. >> or libraries or parks, 2/3 is the threshold that voters must support it for so it can be enacted. we are suggesting 35 years ago lowered to 55%. this past november partial taxes for schools. >> so, you want to drop it down. but again, when it comes to homeowners and the idea of prop 13, even that has changed a bit. older homeowners now benefit from it and the younger homeowners are saying i am paying this and you are paying not. do you feel the mood has changed on the overall idea of prop 13. >>
the north bay, napa valley and mohammed valley things look -- gnome valley things look nice. -- mohammed valley. it may rain, it may not. boy did that sound like a weatherman. stupid tomorrow we will have -- stay tuned tomorrow. we will have more details. >> thank you, brian. the changing of prop 13 may be the first for the super majority fight in sacramento. >> yes. we have more on the people initiative to win the property taxation. that prop 13. we asked him about the pieces....
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he says, do you know mohammed hussein andrea tantaros? my ego! my ego. i said, yeah, i do. well, can i meet andrea -- >> give you another example. republican national convention in tampa. the people, we are walking down the street with andrea and kimberly and people would say, "the five" -- can i get your picture? >> sure. i get in the picture, hey, buddy, can you take a seat. >> what's the most rewarding thing for you guys, being on this successful show. >> i don't think there is any question, it's fun. you see, for me, this is one of the things that sometimes, you have to be very humble about. i feel like, so lucky. >> so blessed -- we all do. >> eric beats the living daylights out of me, out of bob -- >> they all do. >> you know what? i find it interesting i. you kind of like it. >> i don't know that i am a masochist. >> you keep coming back for more. >> i think you need to be humble about it. but i will tell you, i think we are going to be number 1 by the end of next year -- >> we are going to play this clip back. >> number 1. remember we talked about, once have you sta
he says, do you know mohammed hussein andrea tantaros? my ego! my ego. i said, yeah, i do. well, can i meet andrea -- >> give you another example. republican national convention in tampa. the people, we are walking down the street with andrea and kimberly and people would say, "the five" -- can i get your picture? >> sure. i get in the picture, hey, buddy, can you take a seat. >> what's the most rewarding thing for you guys, being on this successful show. >> i...
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opposition leaders said it's preview of the violence the come if mohammed morsi gets his way at the ballot box. tomorrow, the second half of egypt votes on a draft constitution that critics say begins the process of turning the arab world populist country in an islamic state. at the halfway point, those in favor of the move lead the vote by a double digit margin. saturday includes voters in mostly southern egyptian provinces, typically poorer and experts say likely to favor the islamist by wider margin. the latest round of violence began last month when morsi gave himself almost king like powers bridging thousands of people to the street in protest and forcing the army to ring the presidential residents with tanks. the speed at which morsi is pushing through constitution that limits the free speech and women's right, while being based largely on shiria or islamic law is increasing fears that the muslim brotherhood is ruling egypt by that old adage. "one man, one vote. one time." john? >> leland vittert in jerusalem. thanks. still ahead. solutions to flip the script when it comes to debt an
opposition leaders said it's preview of the violence the come if mohammed morsi gets his way at the ballot box. tomorrow, the second half of egypt votes on a draft constitution that critics say begins the process of turning the arab world populist country in an islamic state. at the halfway point, those in favor of the move lead the vote by a double digit margin. saturday includes voters in mostly southern egyptian provinces, typically poorer and experts say likely to favor the islamist by...
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mohammed morsi is calling for a national dialogue with the opposition this weekend. he also accused some opposition members working with mubarak regime. potential for more death in syria on a larger scale is growing tonight. chief washington correspondent james rosen has disturbing news about weapons of mass destructions. >> a regime helicopter calltured in the skies above syria in the unverified amateur video unloadss something. likely a defensive flare. but the moment epitomizes the threat of nuclear weapons that the syrian people now live. rebel forces are now taking the fight directly to the assad regime inside the capital damascus with a deadly explosion near the arab red crescent building and pitch battles for key airfields outside the city. >> it is clear regime forces are being grounded down and they are losing. >> president bashar assad already killed estimated 40,000 people. president obama top aids will fear the fighting take on gruesome character. >> we remained very concerned. very concerned. as the opposition advances on damascus. that the regime might
mohammed morsi is calling for a national dialogue with the opposition this weekend. he also accused some opposition members working with mubarak regime. potential for more death in syria on a larger scale is growing tonight. chief washington correspondent james rosen has disturbing news about weapons of mass destructions. >> a regime helicopter calltured in the skies above syria in the unverified amateur video unloadss something. likely a defensive flare. but the moment epitomizes the...
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mohamed morsi is meeting with members of the opposition to end the worst crisis since he took office. let's bring in rasa. oppositions are snubbing today's meeting. >> that's why i don't think that many people are too optimistic that these talks will have a positive outcome because the top leaders of the opposition said the president hasn't met their demands. remember, this was a suggestion made by the president thursday night when he made his televised address. he asked the leaders of the different political factions to get together at the palace today to talk things out and the political factions and their leaders said no. however, last night the president did make a statement that could be construed and viewed by the opposition as a concession. he made a statement saying he is willing to postpone this nationwide referendum on the draft constitution that is scheduled for next saturday, december 15th. he said he's willing to do it if he's guaranteed that the courts will not challenge him. is this a genuine effort by the president to reach some sort of compromise or is it something el
mohamed morsi is meeting with members of the opposition to end the worst crisis since he took office. let's bring in rasa. oppositions are snubbing today's meeting. >> that's why i don't think that many people are too optimistic that these talks will have a positive outcome because the top leaders of the opposition said the president hasn't met their demands. remember, this was a suggestion made by the president thursday night when he made his televised address. he asked the leaders of...
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egypt's current president mohamed morsi does not. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. so the head of hamas was allowed to travel to the gaza strip. that's one example of the titanic shift in politics in this part of the world going on right now. here is another. this is cairo. not during the revolution that brought morsi to power, but now, this is cairo right now. tens of thousands of protesters have been out there for about two weeks in the famed tahrir square and near the presidential palace. they're very upset that their newly elected democratic president morsi is doing things that they not so democratic. he is trying to make it so his decisions are not subject to judicial review. at least six civilians have been killed and hundreds injured in the violence. president obama called his egyptian counterpart yesterday to express concern about the situation that seems to be spinning out of control. he urged president morsi to meet with and negotiate with the opposition. >>> you probably saw a really cool image. a nighttime view of the earth from space. nasa was able to s
egypt's current president mohamed morsi does not. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. so the head of hamas was allowed to travel to the gaza strip. that's one example of the titanic shift in politics in this part of the world going on right now. here is another. this is cairo. not during the revolution that brought morsi to power, but now, this is cairo right now. tens of thousands of protesters have been out there for about two weeks in the famed tahrir square and near the presidential...
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mohamed jamaal abu ahmed was arrested by egyptian authorities a couple of weeks ago. and remains in custody while the investigation goes on. u.s. authorities believe he may have been involved in the september 11th terror hit that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans according to a u.s. official. the fbi which is conducting the investigation has not been able to talk to him yet. the official would not comment on what led them to him. abu ahmed is known as a radical jihadist, 45 years old, master degrees in sharia law. he's also believed to be the driving force behind a new terror group seeking to align itself with al qaeda according to our sources. and egyptian official says abu ahmed denied any connection to the attack on the u.s. consulate, or being affiliated with al qaeda. he's also believed to be connected to a heavily armed terror suspect that was rated in october in egypt. and five people were arrested. sources say they're looking at several people in the attack. the fbi has been covering a lot of territory, but they're still facing roadbloc
mohamed jamaal abu ahmed was arrested by egyptian authorities a couple of weeks ago. and remains in custody while the investigation goes on. u.s. authorities believe he may have been involved in the september 11th terror hit that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans according to a u.s. official. the fbi which is conducting the investigation has not been able to talk to him yet. the official would not comment on what led them to him. abu ahmed is known as a radical jihadist,...
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. >> ifill: protests surrounding egyptian president mohammed morsi's recent power grab and a hastily drafted constitution turned violent again today. jeffrey brown reports. >> brown: police outside the presidential palace in cairo retreated this evening after a crowd broke through their lines. officers fired back with tear gas but eventually a loud... allowed protestors to make their way to the palace gates. some threw stones toward the billing. security officials said president mohammed morsi left the palace as the demonstrations grew larger, reportedly to more than 100,000. it has become commonplace in the last few weeks. they follow morsi's recent decree that expands his powers and hastily drafted constitution put together by an islamist dominated committee. >> we won't be able to speak. there won't be a court that we can go talk to. he has made himself a force and he said it is a rather force. this is something we cannot believe. we've been 0 years being betrayed. we won't believe morsi. he will remain seated in the chair and not leave it. >> brown: on another front several of eg
. >> ifill: protests surrounding egyptian president mohammed morsi's recent power grab and a hastily drafted constitution turned violent again today. jeffrey brown reports. >> brown: police outside the presidential palace in cairo retreated this evening after a crowd broke through their lines. officers fired back with tear gas but eventually a loud... allowed protestors to make their way to the palace gates. some threw stones toward the billing. security officials said president...
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these folks furious with president mohammed morsi with assuming dictatorial powers and ramming through a constitution that many fear will turn egypt into an islamic state. david shanker is the director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for mere east policy and the former middle east adviser to secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. heather: you were there just prior to morsi's power grab. what was the mood then and did you see this coming? >> i think the brotherhood was very confident and morsi took the opportunity of course after the hamas negotiations of doing this. and i think he thought that he had it in the bag. the people were -- the liberals, the so-called liberals i think were upset, but there was no sign that they were going to actually unify and this really pushed it over the edge. heather: so they have banded together. what about the role of the military, in terms of morsi? the military backed the previous president hosni mubarak. on thursday they intervened for the first time in these latest clashes.
these folks furious with president mohammed morsi with assuming dictatorial powers and ramming through a constitution that many fear will turn egypt into an islamic state. david shanker is the director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for mere east policy and the former middle east adviser to secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. heather: you were there just prior to morsi's power grab. what was the mood then and...
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protests continue to rage over what some view as a major power grab by president mohammed morsi. this is central cairo. that is live look after friday prayers, right before sundown. this is when we see frankly a lot of action in the streets of egypt. in reese days the demonstrations turned violent, even deadly. tanks deployed to the presidential palace late yesterday. defiant president morsi spoke to his nation calling for a national dialogue but he refused to bend on his controversial decree. stephen hayes, senior writer, "weekly standard", fox news contributor watching with us here. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: we wait to see what happened here. seven people were shot in the street the other day. the ultimate question for me trying to figure out what the army will do. they're the ultimate arbiters of power still today in you get, whether under mubarak or under morsi. if they do what morsi says, then he wins. but if they don't, what happens then? >> well, i think that's right. you're pointing to the exact locust of power in egypt depresident morsi having the
protests continue to rage over what some view as a major power grab by president mohammed morsi. this is central cairo. that is live look after friday prayers, right before sundown. this is when we see frankly a lot of action in the streets of egypt. in reese days the demonstrations turned violent, even deadly. tanks deployed to the presidential palace late yesterday. defiant president morsi spoke to his nation calling for a national dialogue but he refused to bend on his controversial decree....
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. >>> again today the crowds are still demanding that president mohammed moed morsi step down. latest from cairo. >>> free market capitalism is the best bet for -- i don't think we should be raising taxes at all. but that's my point of view. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. . >>> tens of thousands of protesters are still surging around egypt's presidential palace. nbc reporter joins us now with the details. good evening, eamon. >> reporter: the media is reporting that the country's commission has ordered a vote scheduled to begin tomorrow in embassies around the world on the country's draft constitution to be postponed u
. >>> again today the crowds are still demanding that president mohammed moed morsi step down. latest from cairo. >>> free market capitalism is the best bet for -- i don't think we should be raising taxes at all. but that's my point of view. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many...
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mohammed al arian. mark zandy and christine romans. as long as congress does not trip us up, we're on the way to an economic renaissance in our country. >>> we are on the road to an economic renaissance. i want to you think about the united states economy like a runner along this road. full economic recovery and prosperity is the destination, the economy right now, that's warming up with a nice jog, getting ready to break into a full sprint. gross domestic product, the broadest measure for the economy grew by an annual rate of 3.1 over the summer, more than double the rate of the previous quarter. spending by americans was the single biggest factor in that growth and more americans are spending their money to buy a home, pushing prices upward across the country. the median price of an existing home shot up 10.1% in november year-over-year. we've seen home values rise six months in a row as more americans get back to work and take advantage of those low mortgage rates. bottom line here -- our runner, the u.s. economy, is just starting t
mohammed al arian. mark zandy and christine romans. as long as congress does not trip us up, we're on the way to an economic renaissance in our country. >>> we are on the road to an economic renaissance. i want to you think about the united states economy like a runner along this road. full economic recovery and prosperity is the destination, the economy right now, that's warming up with a nice jog, getting ready to break into a full sprint. gross domestic product, the broadest measure...
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and mohamed, let me ask you this. let's talk act the first piece of damage we may see, which we saw during the debt ceiling debate, the idea that the u.s. gets its credit rating hurt again. there's been some talk about it from fitch. the net result of lowering the u.s.' credit rating the last time around and-in the debt debacle, it's kind of sad because the first experience most people have with that is it wasn't as bad as we were warned it was going to be. is there a real danger to the u.s.' debt rating and what could that mean? >> at some point, there was a danger. the reason why we haven't felt it is because we've been doing better than rest of the world. this concept that my colleague, bill gross says, wear the cle cleanest dirty shirt. so we're not clean but we're cleaner than europe is right now. >> right. >> so we haven't felt it. my main worry is the following, that if the republicans and democrats can't get together to solve the fiscal cliff you will need an external force, a major market sell-off, you will n
and mohamed, let me ask you this. let's talk act the first piece of damage we may see, which we saw during the debt ceiling debate, the idea that the u.s. gets its credit rating hurt again. there's been some talk about it from fitch. the net result of lowering the u.s.' credit rating the last time around and-in the debt debacle, it's kind of sad because the first experience most people have with that is it wasn't as bad as we were warned it was going to be. is there a real danger to the u.s.'...
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egyptian president mohammed morsi returning to the presidential palace overnight. he left amid clashes between police and 100,000 protestors. look at that. they are outraged over her recent power grab. it shows there should be great concern about morsi. >> people have said the muslim brotherhood is moderate, it is responsible, it will not be a problem if it takes power has been proven wrong i think beyond a shadow of a doubt. this man is in power through whatever means he can get it. >> steve harrigan has more from cairo on the clashes. >> real escalation by the opposition protestors. in cairo square they are on the move moving toward egypt's presidential palace. they cut through bashed wire. in the end the protestors had tear gas at the wall of the complex. h mohammed morsi was in the compound. he left not to flee but at the end of a normal workday. he does not reside in that palace. the demonstration shows the agenda is a referendum december 15th. they will be voting on a controversial constitution that has divided the country from secular and islamic parties. th
egyptian president mohammed morsi returning to the presidential palace overnight. he left amid clashes between police and 100,000 protestors. look at that. they are outraged over her recent power grab. it shows there should be great concern about morsi. >> people have said the muslim brotherhood is moderate, it is responsible, it will not be a problem if it takes power has been proven wrong i think beyond a shadow of a doubt. this man is in power through whatever means he can get it....
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this is a constitution that's divided this new democracy, favored by mohammed morsi and the muslims defenders say it's needed to gain the protection. next saturday's voting will happen in the rural areas of the country, favorable to the conservative islamist party. so at this point it seems this constitution's going to happen. there are a chances for the opposition to modify it after the fact but that's difficult. the new constitution also means there will be a new parliament voted in but islamists on that side are well organized. the fear is that the opponents, the critics, will again have to take it to the streets. >> all right, so potentially the violence and demonstrations may not end. >>> as you heard greg report, the islamist predicted to score a victory in the weekend vote. what does it mean for egypt's future, the role of morsi and the potential of a islamist state in egypt. john bolton jones us about every sunday at this time. good morning, embassador. >> good morning. >> the new constitution says islam is the official religion of the state. what other impact is there of this constit
this is a constitution that's divided this new democracy, favored by mohammed morsi and the muslims defenders say it's needed to gain the protection. next saturday's voting will happen in the rural areas of the country, favorable to the conservative islamist party. so at this point it seems this constitution's going to happen. there are a chances for the opposition to modify it after the fact but that's difficult. the new constitution also means there will be a new parliament voted in but...
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miss israelis would personally prefer hosni mubarak to mohammed morsi that is for sure. you go off the rails when you compare the egyptian revolution to the american revolution. >> i think you missed my point. my point is when you have a change in government and when you go from one kind of government to another it's not pretty. i'm not suggesting this is analogous in every way to the american revolution but it's certainly a big change from what had existed before. it's funny for me to hear conservatives fine for hosni mubarak who they never liked that much when he was in power. >> they liked him a lot he was pro-israel and proamerican. >> he's a dick taeutder. a dictator. >> allies are fine as long as they are allies. >> as long as they are dictators on our side they are good dictators. jon: we'll leave it there, alan colmes, jim pinkerton, our viewers should keep this in mind, this kind of discussion as they read the stories about what is going on in egypt. thank you both. >> tphaupbg. >> thank you. jenna: the star of the number one youtube video in the world is kickin
miss israelis would personally prefer hosni mubarak to mohammed morsi that is for sure. you go off the rails when you compare the egyptian revolution to the american revolution. >> i think you missed my point. my point is when you have a change in government and when you go from one kind of government to another it's not pretty. i'm not suggesting this is analogous in every way to the american revolution but it's certainly a big change from what had existed before. it's funny for me to...
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supporters of mohammed morsi each staged mass demonstrations in cairo throughout the day. in tahrir square security officials say masked gunmen fired on the protesters, wounded at least 9. after weeks of chaos there is word of possible talks tomorrow to try to calm the chaos. of course, this all started with president morsi sweeping power grab. the protesters forced him largely to give up those powers but he is still pushing ahead with plans for saturday's referendum. officials there say it's likely to happen despite some 90% of judges voting not to oversee it. greg palkot with the news live tonight in cairo. greg? >> demonstrations were big and noisy here tonight in cairo. got close it the presidential palace unlike last week when several people died, there were no clashes between the two sides tonight. maybe we're told because president morsi's muslim brotherhood we're told not to crack any heads this time. this unrest has left one economic casualty. egypt is deferring its request for much needed 5 billion-dollar loan from the imf. the government probably deciding this i
supporters of mohammed morsi each staged mass demonstrations in cairo throughout the day. in tahrir square security officials say masked gunmen fired on the protesters, wounded at least 9. after weeks of chaos there is word of possible talks tomorrow to try to calm the chaos. of course, this all started with president morsi sweeping power grab. the protesters forced him largely to give up those powers but he is still pushing ahead with plans for saturday's referendum. officials there say it's...
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. >> supporters and opponents of president mohammed morsi clashing outside of the presidential palace. the head of egypt's muslim brotherhood is calling for unit. divisions only help egypt enemies. tuesday's typhoon hundreds more are missing among the devastation. earlier this morning rescuers found a 77-year-old man alive. he survived on coconuts for the last two-days. >> get your on-line shopping done. right now you don't have to pay sales tax but that may change after the new year. >> for on-line shoppers it may be the last holiday with no sales tax. they aim to clarify or over turn a 92 supreme court ruling that requires retailers to have a physical presence in a state in order to collect sales tax on good. currently they are supposed to pay directly to the government but few actually do. having on-line retailers have both partyings as many struggle to find revenue and look to level the playing field. supporters say on-line sales tax is common sense and would encourage people to buy local keeping tax dollars in their community. critics say it would burden small businesses collecti
. >> supporters and opponents of president mohammed morsi clashing outside of the presidential palace. the head of egypt's muslim brotherhood is calling for unit. divisions only help egypt enemies. tuesday's typhoon hundreds more are missing among the devastation. earlier this morning rescuers found a 77-year-old man alive. he survived on coconuts for the last two-days. >> get your on-line shopping done. right now you don't have to pay sales tax but that may change after the new...
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mohammed adual has been detained in egypt. many believe he is the leader of the new wing of al qaeda smed meanwhile secretary of state hillary clinton agreeing to testify about benghazi attack in an open hearing. house foreign relations committee chair woman ileana ross laytonnen says she will testify before the end of the year but no date has been set. two australian shock jobs have gone off othe air indefinitely now after their prank involving kate middleton took a tragic turn. i don't know if you have heard about this. but a nurse at the hospital where the duchess was being treated she was found dead on friday after reportedly killing herself. she was duped by the djs into believing that queen elizabeth was on the phone asking for kate. they sent that prank call to kate's bench nurse. prince william and kate released a statement saying they were saddened by this news. ceremonies were held around the country yesterday to mark the 7 a anniversary of the pearl harbor attack. >> survivors, service members and families gathering
mohammed adual has been detained in egypt. many believe he is the leader of the new wing of al qaeda smed meanwhile secretary of state hillary clinton agreeing to testify about benghazi attack in an open hearing. house foreign relations committee chair woman ileana ross laytonnen says she will testify before the end of the year but no date has been set. two australian shock jobs have gone off othe air indefinitely now after their prank involving kate middleton took a tragic turn. i don't know...
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and numb 3, who came up with this ridiculous story that the whole thing was provoked by the mohammed video. bill: you think you get answers to all three in a review like this. >> you have the capability of it, i do? >> this is not just former state department people. admiral mullen, former joint chiefs of staff. a member of the intelligence community is member of this board. they could reach out beyond the state department and i hope they did but we obviously don't know at this point. bill: we will get some word on the report and then it goes up to capitol hill, right. they can't keep a secret? >> there are two parts. classified version and unclassifieders have. we'll see the unclassified version in the hearing on thursday as you mentioned is a opportunity for congress to ask about it. bill: do you think that is must-see tv on thursday? >> i'm certainly going to watch it. i'm very disappointed secretary clinton is not there. obviously we wish her well for the holt situation. it is postponing the moment when she will have to testify. bill: she is going to testify according to the repo
and numb 3, who came up with this ridiculous story that the whole thing was provoked by the mohammed video. bill: you think you get answers to all three in a review like this. >> you have the capability of it, i do? >> this is not just former state department people. admiral mullen, former joint chiefs of staff. a member of the intelligence community is member of this board. they could reach out beyond the state department and i hope they did but we obviously don't know at this...
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the new constitution pushed through by mohamed morsi gives himself sweeping powers. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, thank you for coming here. the white house said they discussed a broad range of issues. i don't know what that means but you say they are down playing this for a reason. why is that? >> the white house is very, very embarrassed. it's got a bad case of strategic add. it took its eye off the ball in libya and took its eye off the ball in egypt, figuring everything was fine. it's at sea, a sea of sand on syria. but specifically in egypt, the administration want quiet and wants to focus on its domestic agenda. so it's giving a pass to president morsi who is turning into a dictator who is ramming through a constitution that while it does not specify sharia law as the ruling factor nonetheless has various clauses that take the country toward sharia law over the coming years. i think they are embarrassed. we can't change egypt. but we give them well over $1 billion in aid a year and we can play on the margins. bill: many people think egypt is the next iran if
the new constitution pushed through by mohamed morsi gives himself sweeping powers. lieutenant colonel ralph peters, thank you for coming here. the white house said they discussed a broad range of issues. i don't know what that means but you say they are down playing this for a reason. why is that? >> the white house is very, very embarrassed. it's got a bad case of strategic add. it took its eye off the ball in libya and took its eye off the ball in egypt, figuring everything was fine....
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mohammed morsi has ordered security during the ref republican demonstrate. >>> two office -- referendum. >>> and the dj,s saying they're sorry that a hospital employee has taken her life over the prank call. >> i'm devastated for them. i'm feeling for them. >> it's a shocking turn of e.s. if we had any idea that something like this could be even possible to happen, you know, we couldn't see this happening. it was meant to be a prank call. >> kate middleton is suffering morning sickness once again but she is not expected to return to the hospital for it. >>> with one teammate dead and another accused of killing him, this sunday's victory is bittersweet for the dallas cow boys. an hour after the emotional win, josh brent was released from jail. present was driving drunk early saturday when he lost control of his 2007 mercedes killing passenger jerry browne. >> there was a feeling of numbness out on the field today but somehow they focused it and we figured out a way to win the ball game. >> there was a moment of silence before the game and brown's jersey was faced on the bench. the cowboy
mohammed morsi has ordered security during the ref republican demonstrate. >>> two office -- referendum. >>> and the dj,s saying they're sorry that a hospital employee has taken her life over the prank call. >> i'm devastated for them. i'm feeling for them. >> it's a shocking turn of e.s. if we had any idea that something like this could be even possible to happen, you know, we couldn't see this happening. it was meant to be a prank call. >> kate middleton is...
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christian greek catholic community in egypt they are celebrating their first christmas under the rule of mohammed morsi. it's not easy. greek catholics make up 1% of egyptian society. during the mass many were criticized, and they say the constitution is too extreme. they are going against the rules of the rev hraoufplgts egypt held a vote on the future of the new contusion but the release of the official results has been delayed. we'll keep you posted. kelly: looks like former president george h.w. bush will be spending his christmas in the hospital. the 88-year-old has been undergoing treatment for a bronchitis-like cough since november. his spokesman says doctors remain cautiously optimistic that he will recover. they want to keep an eye on him throughout the day. president bush's son, former president george w. bush has been among the visitors at the hospital today. jamie: nelson mandela enjoying better health this day. his condition is improving and he's in good spirits. the former south african leader has been in the hospital since september 8th recovering from a lung infection and the remo
christian greek catholic community in egypt they are celebrating their first christmas under the rule of mohammed morsi. it's not easy. greek catholics make up 1% of egyptian society. during the mass many were criticized, and they say the constitution is too extreme. they are going against the rules of the rev hraoufplgts egypt held a vote on the future of the new contusion but the release of the official results has been delayed. we'll keep you posted. kelly: looks like former president george...
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egypt's president, mohammed morsi rolling back part of the power grab he took two weeks ago which sparked violent protests, he insists referendum on a new constitution crafted by his islamist allies will go ahead and scheduled next weekend. meanwhile, nelson mandala remains in a south african hospital on this sunday. sources close to the mandala family tell nbc news there's quote no sense of panic. mandala had sympttomach surgery earlier this year. >>> and the fbi's headquarters may be moving. not soon, though, but perhaps eventually. the building sits right between the white house and the capitol. it's prime d.c. real estate so the agency that oversees the federal buildings is calling on ideas about where else it could house the gumshoe headquarters. in exchange they'll consider throwing in the j. edgar hoover building and the land it stands on. >>> turning to weed now, marijuana reform backers got a huge boost in november when voters in colorado and washington state legalized recreational pot. recent polls have found the nation just about split on whether or not to legalize. but busines
egypt's president, mohammed morsi rolling back part of the power grab he took two weeks ago which sparked violent protests, he insists referendum on a new constitution crafted by his islamist allies will go ahead and scheduled next weekend. meanwhile, nelson mandala remains in a south african hospital on this sunday. sources close to the mandala family tell nbc news there's quote no sense of panic. mandala had sympttomach surgery earlier this year. >>> and the fbi's headquarters may be...
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president mohamed morsi is reportedly putting a second decree forth. he's putting his newly-approved constitution into effect. voters approving the islamist-backed constitutions by what an election official calls a nearly two to one margin. protesters have broken out over the constitution since it was passed by the islamist-controlled legislature. opposition members say it does not protect the rights of egyptians for the rest of the year which ousted former form e president hosni mubarak. patti ann: well, a top syrian general has reportedly switched sides to join the opposition. the military police leader made the announcement in a video. dozens of officers have defected since the crisis evolved last march, but this is one of the most senior. could it be a turning point? joining us now, navy captain chuck nash. thanks for being with us. how significant is this defection? >> well, i think it just shows that the tower's crumbling around assad, and it's certainly not good for him, and it's going to make those who are supporting him question his staying po
president mohamed morsi is reportedly putting a second decree forth. he's putting his newly-approved constitution into effect. voters approving the islamist-backed constitutions by what an election official calls a nearly two to one margin. protesters have broken out over the constitution since it was passed by the islamist-controlled legislature. opposition members say it does not protect the rights of egyptians for the rest of the year which ousted former form e president hosni mubarak. patti...
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9/11 ringleader mohamed atta awaited him at the orlando airport. so for me, "zero dark thirty" is a reminder of the power of one person. one week ago today, we saw the power of one individual to do horrific things. well, this was the opposite. if jose melendez perez had allowed qahtani into the united states, he would have been aboard flight 93. arguably, his added muscle could have kept the passengers at bay for the 20 more minutes the
9/11 ringleader mohamed atta awaited him at the orlando airport. so for me, "zero dark thirty" is a reminder of the power of one person. one week ago today, we saw the power of one individual to do horrific things. well, this was the opposite. if jose melendez perez had allowed qahtani into the united states, he would have been aboard flight 93. arguably, his added muscle could have kept the passengers at bay for the 20 more minutes the
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ahead or boycott the referendum or hope that the united states and others apply a lot of pressure on mohammed morsi to be more incluive. officials at the state department are not involved right now. >> there are strong opinions in egypt about both the substance of the constitution and the process to get there. this is, these are egyptian decisions to make, how to move failure. >> that is what the united states officials are saying publicly but privately there is a fair degree of thinking they could be applying a lot more pressure on morsi. >>shepard: thank you. morsi could get a dose his own medicine. judge napolitano, his chicken is coming home to roost. >>judge napolitano: this is how he took power when the mobs had enough of mubarak. how did mubarak become the president of egypt? in a military coup and he stayed there 30 years with knox unlawful elections but no one was perted to run or campaign against him. the muslim brotherhood challenged and had riots and demonstrations and the military shot the demonstrators and then backed off and president mubarak ran. sound familiar? it is close to
ahead or boycott the referendum or hope that the united states and others apply a lot of pressure on mohammed morsi to be more incluive. officials at the state department are not involved right now. >> there are strong opinions in egypt about both the substance of the constitution and the process to get there. this is, these are egyptian decisions to make, how to move failure. >> that is what the united states officials are saying publicly but privately there is a fair degree of...
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members of the muslim brotherhood and other islamists rallied behind mohamed morsi. nbc's jim maceda is in cairo with the latest on that. >> hi, craig. supporters really needed a massive turnout today at their rally to stem the momentum of the opposition, which has seen hundreds of thousands of real mix of secular, moderate, leftist, liberal, christian and other minority egyptians who have been filling up tahrir square over the past week and which tonight, by the way, continues its ten-city occupation of the square. today in the end belonged to morsi supporters. their show of support was big, at least in the tens of thousands, perhaps 100,000 or more outside cairo university and it really had the feel of a political rally. there were people waving flags, carrying banners and chanting pro-morsi sloegers. there were some clashes reported, not in cairo, but in the north in alexandria between pro and anti-morsi groups. overall, however, the day was peaceful. that's because the muslim brotherhood is much more focused on politics than on protests. it wants to see as quickl
members of the muslim brotherhood and other islamists rallied behind mohamed morsi. nbc's jim maceda is in cairo with the latest on that. >> hi, craig. supporters really needed a massive turnout today at their rally to stem the momentum of the opposition, which has seen hundreds of thousands of real mix of secular, moderate, leftist, liberal, christian and other minority egyptians who have been filling up tahrir square over the past week and which tonight, by the way, continues its...
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demonstrations raged on against mohammed morsi. opponents claim he tried to make himself a dictator by granting himself near absolute power. over the weekend, voters passed the new constitution with 57% of the ballot. if passed if an upcoming vote, his ally also have sweeping new powers. protesters claim the vote was full of irregularities. they are demanding the president step down and the constitution be rewritten. >>> i'm john scott in for shepard smith. this is the fox report. the mother of the shooter in friday's school massacre knew her son had problems. so much so she didn't like to leave him alone. that from a marriage counselor who dealt with the mother's divorce. her account is just another piece of the troubling puzzle that is starting to take shape. according to the reporting of cbs news a man who baby sat the shoot service a teen-ager says nancy lanza once warned him not to turn his back on her son for a moment. not even to go to the bathroom. as we've been reporting, family friends described the 20-year-old as a socia
demonstrations raged on against mohammed morsi. opponents claim he tried to make himself a dictator by granting himself near absolute power. over the weekend, voters passed the new constitution with 57% of the ballot. if passed if an upcoming vote, his ally also have sweeping new powers. protesters claim the vote was full of irregularities. they are demanding the president step down and the constitution be rewritten. >>> i'm john scott in for shepard smith. this is the fox report. the...
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opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi reportedly torched the headquarters of the muslim brotherhood in a city east of cairo today. outside the presidential palace in the capital, thousands of islamist supporter of president morsi chased away opposition protesters who later returned in big numbers. fighting with rocks, fire bombs and sticks. tragic scenes tonight in philippines. stunned parents searching through a reof mud-stained bodies looking for missing children lost. the storm killed nearly 300 people in the southern philippines, including 78 villagers who perished during a flash flood. show and tell today on capitol hill. america's top intelligence official brought visual aids with him for his briefing on the september 11 terror attack in libya. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge tells us what lawmakers saw. >> the closed, classified briefing brought together state department and counterintelligence officials for status report on the 23-month-old investigation on benghazi terror attack. >> to the degree there was planning involved was this done over weeks, days
opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi reportedly torched the headquarters of the muslim brotherhood in a city east of cairo today. outside the presidential palace in the capital, thousands of islamist supporter of president morsi chased away opposition protesters who later returned in big numbers. fighting with rocks, fire bombs and sticks. tragic scenes tonight in philippines. stunned parents searching through a reof mud-stained bodies looking for missing children lost. the storm...
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>> any explanation, mohammed, from the syrian government for this bombing? what possible reason would they have to bomb this village? >> reporter: well, don, the syrian government hasn't commented on this aerial bombardment yet. but opposition activists that we've spoken with say they believe the reason this town was targeted is because they say that the town was liberated in the past week, that rebel-free syrian army members went into the town, that they took it away from the control of syrian regime forces that had been there. the opposition activists we speak with say there had been a lot of anti-assad sentiment in that town. because of that, they believe this town was deliberately targeted as a part of a retaliation plan by the government. don? >> russian diplomats have been talking about possible asylum for assad. this bombing today has to play a part in the discussions in damascus. >> reporter: well, we certainly think it would have to, absolutely. and really is there any more striking juxtaposition as far as the failed attempts thus far by the diploma
>> any explanation, mohammed, from the syrian government for this bombing? what possible reason would they have to bomb this village? >> reporter: well, don, the syrian government hasn't commented on this aerial bombardment yet. but opposition activists that we've spoken with say they believe the reason this town was targeted is because they say that the town was liberated in the past week, that rebel-free syrian army members went into the town, that they took it away from the...
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it's a risky move that could cause conflict of supporters of mohammed morsi. the riot police seem to have the protestors bottled up in the square. the goal to march on the presidential palace failed today for the opposition. jenna: the question is whether we are headed toward potentially more violence in the streets. we'll keep an eye on what is happening in the streets today. jon: high levels of a deadly gas forced the evacuation of an elementary school forcing dozen of students to the hospital. an update on that story moments away jon: potentially deadly levels of carbon monoxide at an atlantiat atlanta elementary school. >> reporter: there is no law in the state of georgia that requires schools or buildings to install carbon monoxide detectors. this is an invisible gas that can be very, very dangerous when it's found in high levels, and so this happened at a school outside of atlanta, they were fixing a faulty boiler, the boiler went bad causing the carbon monoxide fumes to seep into the school. over 40 kids and seven adults were all sickened because of thi
it's a risky move that could cause conflict of supporters of mohammed morsi. the riot police seem to have the protestors bottled up in the square. the goal to march on the presidential palace failed today for the opposition. jenna: the question is whether we are headed toward potentially more violence in the streets. we'll keep an eye on what is happening in the streets today. jon: high levels of a deadly gas forced the evacuation of an elementary school forcing dozen of students to the...
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they believe the prophet mohammed stopped here escorted by gabriel on a visit the birth place of jesus. >> of course for christians bethlehem the city of king david is the birth place of jesus christ. >> you can see how it attracts people from all over the world because this is the birth of the savior not just of an important historical figure. >> father jerome murphy o'connor served in israel for 40 years he took us on the tour of the church of nativity along side major square. he has seen many changes. >> where have all of the christians gone? >> they are afraid to come. >> they are afraid of all of the turmoil and fighting that has plagued this area. >> this bethlehem used to be 100 percent christian. now it stands only above 35. >> i talked with people who used to wait in line for hours to get into the church of the nativity. now it looks like you can walk right in. >> absolutely. the door we will be going through. >> so this is the traditional birth place of jesus? >> this is the traditional birth place. there is very little doubt about the city and for us the probability about 85
they believe the prophet mohammed stopped here escorted by gabriel on a visit the birth place of jesus. >> of course for christians bethlehem the city of king david is the birth place of jesus christ. >> you can see how it attracts people from all over the world because this is the birth of the savior not just of an important historical figure. >> father jerome murphy o'connor served in israel for 40 years he took us on the tour of the church of nativity along side major...
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mohammed morsi makes a bold power grab. and a new constitution is pushed throughout without the input of christians or moderates. >> tom: and a look at the film that is exposing the dark world of sex trafficking, and bringing victims a message of hope. >> george: as nigeria's christians suffer more attacks, the international community seeks more tools to fight islamic terrorist. hello, everyone, i'm george thomas. >> wendy: and i'm we wendy griffith. twin car bombings on a military base in nigeria killed at least 15 people. it happened in the muslim north. officials say a bus packed with explosives rammed into st. andrew military protestant church right after sunday's services. about 10 minutes later, a car just outside the church exploded, as people fled from the first attack. boko haram is expected in the attack. boko haram is blamed for killing more than 760 nigerians this year alone. >> george: staggering numbers. he is executive director of a group that defends religious rights. ann, the international criminal court ha
mohammed morsi makes a bold power grab. and a new constitution is pushed throughout without the input of christians or moderates. >> tom: and a look at the film that is exposing the dark world of sex trafficking, and bringing victims a message of hope. >> george: as nigeria's christians suffer more attacks, the international community seeks more tools to fight islamic terrorist. hello, everyone, i'm george thomas. >> wendy: and i'm we wendy griffith. twin car bombings on a...
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boehner wants obama to come to him, have the mountain move towards hoe mohammed, and the president is not ready to do that at all. and this plan-b to get obama to move has not quite worked. now boehner has to round up votes to try to pass it, and that's why we're in the mess we're in today. >> eliot: it seems to me last weekend they crossed their major ideological divide when they said they're raising rates on the wealthy the rates being the sand that they were not willing to cross. and the cpi the real entitlement cut it seems that it will be coming to reaching the middle ground and then things stalled out again. what do you think has happened to thank this. >> boehner has had a hard time bringing about his conference. this is a stunt and delay tactic and it may be plan-b for boehner, it may be because he's having trouble bringing along the members of the conference, particularly the quote tee party members who we heard congressman israel taking a swipe at there. it's a real struggle for boehner. he has this sort of outward game where he's negotiating with obama where he's trying to
boehner wants obama to come to him, have the mountain move towards hoe mohammed, and the president is not ready to do that at all. and this plan-b to get obama to move has not quite worked. now boehner has to round up votes to try to pass it, and that's why we're in the mess we're in today. >> eliot: it seems to me last weekend they crossed their major ideological divide when they said they're raising rates on the wealthy the rates being the sand that they were not willing to cross. and...